“So, it's a very, you know - maybe we're wrong in - you know, we go around thinking the innovator is the person who's first to kind of conceive of something. And maybe the innovation process continues down the line to the second and the third and the fourth entrant into a field.”
“It's a very big deal to me to remain the same person because I know all of this is going to be gone one day and I'm just going to have myself.”