“I first learned that there were black people living in some place called other than the United States in the western hemisphere when I was a very little boy, and my father told me that when he was a boy about my age, he wanted to be an Episcopal priest, because he so admired his priest, a black man ”

“The desire definitely comes from within. There are only a few people who make it to this level and those are the ones who have that innate desire.”