I hope the cooks who are working for me now are getting that kind of experience so they can use what they're learning now as a foundation for a great career.
I've never believed much in that holding hands kind of love. I've always thought that love is about two different personalities trying to confront life, trying to make sense of their responsibilities, to themselves, to each other, and to the wider society.
I got a phone call from Douglas Campbell and from Jerome Guthrie, who offered me a job out of the blue.

