Show business is one of those things that people can use to get themselves out of the lower rung of society.
“I never told a victim story about my imprisonment. Instead, I told a transformation story - about how prison changed my outlook, about how I saw that communication, truth, and trust are at the heart of power.”
“As far commercial success, I don't think that's a focus but it's not that we don't enjoy that. It's not something you can attempt and achieve.”