“I thought if anyone need a leg up, it was our foster children. So, I started getting involved in education reform, and that was back in 1998. And as a result of all the reform work that I had done, people urged me to run for the Minnesota state Senate. I did, I was there for six years.”

“A building is hard to judge. It takes many years to find out whether it works. It's not as simple as asking the people in the office whether they like it.”