We're going to have the same demographic spread of nutcases and the same spread of everybody in between.
Twenty-eight years in business and you understand the importance of problem solving and the importance of efficiency, because if you don't become efficient, you don't run a business well, and you are out of business. And I think some of those principles could be applied to leadership in Washington.
Generally, I end up being the one thrown against the wall, because Zach is the drummer. He's stronger than me.

