Ben was more improvisational, and relied less on methodology, and basically is a guitarist who switched to bass, whereas Jeff has a more traditional approach to playing bass in a band, and has a great sense of what his band sounds like, and we lock up nicely.
That's the difference between golf and many other sports. You go to some other sporting events, they just leave you or give you the cold shoulder and move on.
I've never felt influenced by Ernest Hemingway though I suppose there is something inevitable there.

