The day-to-day making of policy is arguing all the time. You're trying to get the right approach and the right answer, and there are moments that aren't very pleasant. But in the end, you look at the overall product.
“I also surround myself with people who make me laugh. If I'm not laughing, it upsets my day.”
“I just try to get out of my own way because if anyone is their own worst enemy, it's usually you.”