Special effects are characters. Special effects are essential elements. Just because you can't see them doesn't mean they aren't there.
“You can't be what you don't see. I didn't think about being a doctor. I didn't even think about being a clerk in a store, I'd never seen a black clerk in a clothing store.”
“I just hope that our fans are people who are inspired by music, and just use our music as a background or inspiration for whatever it is they do.”