You don't lead by pointing and telling people some place to go. You lead by going to that place and making a case.
“They have equal weight and you do the same work you'd do if you were playing a dramatic role.”
“You know, Equal Interest played at the Bell Atlantic Jazz Festival Awards and not one musician from that category was even thought of. Even thought of! The idea, that here's this vital energy, and that element doesn't even know it exists!”