And Title IX coming along there. I don't think Evan would have done any different than I did. I was fortunate to be there at a time when that was right.
I hate to say it, but the truth is that the upscale line is where I get respect as a designer. The higher the price range, the higher the respect level from the industry, even though it's much easier to make a great $500 dress than a great $100 dress.

