I didn't actually realise what apartheid meant. I'm probably a bit naive, but I thought it was more of a vague segregation, like on the beaches and buses.
“As far commercial success, I don't think that's a focus but it's not that we don't enjoy that. It's not something you can attempt and achieve.”
“I work out the other bits, too, but I need to know what I look like, very early on. And then it's like a template; I'll fill that person out. If I get that out of the way, then I'm all right.”