And there's a lot of that stuff with people bringing their kids, kids bringing their parents, people bringing their grandparents - I mean, it's gotten to be really stretched out now. It was never my intention to say, this is the demographics of our audience.
“I was not interested in irony; I wanted to emphasize the primacy of the idea in making art.”
“It pulled me like a magnet, jazz did, because it was a way that I could express myself.”