If you feel you have the right key, you try to make some phrase or sound that will fit.
“I've never had a chance to go to the Finals, and I don't have a ring - and that would be the only thing that would get me to think about it.”
“I know a lot of people who are very good at their craft who have learned - people behind the camera - who really have a lot to offer because they know what they're doing, they know what to do, they've made their mistakes.”