Cinema explains American society. It's like a Western, with good guys and bad guys, where the weak don't have a place.
When we moved to Seattle, everybody kind of disappeared into different corners of the city and it was a very difficult time for the band.
He was certainly in a confused state. I used to go and visit him in Callan Park. They were really - to me they were the best poets those two writing in those days but it wasn't very encouraging because, well, they weren't getting far were they?

