I was never concretely aware of the extent of anti-Semitism in the United States and in the upper levels of the State Department.
I'm the one by the backdoor - I am not the one in the middle of the party.
I always told the people at Cal Arts that if they wanted me to do Jazz studies, first of all, there couldn't be a big band within 500 miles and that I could do what I wanted to do. And they said I could.