For me, personally, I really get a kick out of game shows. I like the play-along factor.
“I've always been pretty tough in that way, where if you tell me I can't do something, I will prove you wrong.”
“I've inherited a sense of that loss from my parents because it was so palpable all the time while I was growing up, the sense of what my parents had sacrificed in moving to the United States, and yet at the same time, building a life here and all that that entailed.”