What underlies great science is what underlies great art, whether it is visual or written, and that is the ability to distinguish patterns out of chaos.
And then, when I went into the Navy, there was no choice. You took about half of the hours during your naval training as naval courses and the other half were engineering.
I have to admit I didn't do as much as I should have back when I was mayor, but now we're getting it done. It's not where you've been but where you're going.