If you're going to play at all, you're out to win. Baseball, board games, playing Jeopardy, I hate to lose.
I have friends who remember seeing fish hauled onto a boat's deck and beaten to death.
I think what he's - what he believes, and he may be correct, I don't know, that we have some intelligence information that leads us to know some things about what's going on in Iraq that we haven't revealed to others.