I sort of play golf because a lot of my friends are into it, but I'm awful - my handicap is about six or seven thousand.
“I got a phone call from Douglas Campbell and from Jerome Guthrie, who offered me a job out of the blue.”
“And I thought my loss my loss was not, certainly, the end of the world, but to lessen the enthusiasm of those young people who were signed up, I thought that was tragic.”