The most important aspect of the relationship between the president and the secretary of state is that they both understand who is president.
Business is difficult. But it could be approached two ways: Seriously, or with the same way you're doing your job, with entertainment aspect, with pleasure, with fun. And we decided to try to make it as fun that we do our creativity.
I do like to hang out in the corner and keep my eye on the party, or be outside in a smaller group.

