I won't say I didn't like it at the time, the sex, that is, because I wouldn't have let him do it at all if that had been the case.
The system is the work of art; the visual work of art is the proof of the System. The visual aspect can't be understood without understanding the system. It isn't what it looks like but what it is that is of basic importance.
The best interviews like the best biographies should sing the strangeness and variety of the human race.