I had a lot of trouble with engineers, because their whole background is learning from a functional point of view, and then learning how to perform that function.
And I guess what I would say is that we can't think narrowly about movements for black liberation and we can't necessarily see this class division as simply a product or a certain strategy that black movements have developed for liberation.
I am sure Mr Heath thinks he is honest but I wish he didn't have to have his friends say it so often.