I was raised in a time where children were still seen and not heard basically, so I think a lot of us in my generation went the other way and just tried to be as much more liberal and open and we're still paying for it.
If you go too soon, you can come unstuck with 50m left when the guys are going past you.
Remove grace, and you have nothing whereby to be saved. Remove free will and you have nothing that could be saved.

