We were once friends with the whites but you nudged us out of the way by your intrigues, and now when we are in council you keep nudging each other.
“But there was something psychological happening there that was just a little bit different. And the other thing was, there was no stigma. Kids weren't going into the 'Center-for-Kids-That-Need-More-Help' or something like that. It was 826 Valencia.”