On stage, we just want to generate hysteria. We don't care about looking cool or posing.
I loved the travel but I didn't love the work. I mean, come on, modelling is only so stimulating!
I have to tell you, my seven-year-old granddaughter said to my daughter, her mother, 'So what's the big deal about Grandma Maddy having been Secretary of State? Only girls are Secretaries of State.' Most of her lifetime, it's true. But at the time it really was a big deal.

